I would have missed this but for Kevin at QueerConservative. It seems that a gay-liberal has decided to attempt to analyze the land of common sense.
The author of this blatherfest that refused to fail its expected reader by characterizing me as “self-loathing” (gee, why haven’t I heard that before?) goes on about how liberals like us more and how being gay automatically makes one pro-abortion. It also points out how loathing it is to expect my community to have a little “pride” by refusing freak-floats on the one day of the year we are supposed to commemorate the victims of the Stonewall era.
Of course, the author of this would be the first one to whine when the rest of humanity views the gay community as the freaks that play with straight freaks, wear big wigs, and trade “wet stories” about golden showers publicly.
This fella is also delusioned to believe that it is Democratic politicians that are going to convince the rest of America. He also lumps the entire community in with other areas of liberal insanity:
One facet of the all-powerful gay stereotype that affects both gay men and lesbians is the idea that we’re all on the liberal side of any political argument. Pro-gay rights, naturally — but also anti-war, pro-choice, and in favor of teaching evolution and comprehensive sex education in schools. This is one area of the gay stereotype that I happen to fit. I’ve often said that I’m happy to be a tree-hugging peacenik
So, I suppose the gay community is a bunch of sheep and nobody has any original thoughts of their own if they happen to be attracted to members of their same-sex? He wants to teach Darwinism in public schools but also fails to realize that Darwinism considers any species’ mating-practices that do not result in reproduction direct-qualifiers for being exiled from the gene pool. Does he view this as a compliment?
This is indeed someone who seems to be following Hollywood and is someone who is not thinking outside of the box. Just because he’s gay, he’s liberal. Yep, that’s original.
My only request is that next time he gives me top-billing.
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Regarding this “blatherfest” you discuss, you have framed at least one issue incorrectly.
“goes on about how liberals like us more and how being gay automatically makes one pro-abortion.”
No, that’s not what he said. As you even point out yourself later in a quote, he was referring to the often quoted stereotype that says one must be pro choice if they are gay. All he was speaking to was the stereotype, not his own belief of that being a requirement.
For someone who wants “top billing”, one would have thought you would honor your disagreement with a comment on the article. Especially before writing a critique of your own.
I think your example of the “freak parade” is a good one pointing out the central difference in liberal vs. conservative ideology. I’m about as liberal as you can get, and in terms of outward appearance, I’m fairly conservative, always have been. But I don’t expect my personal deportment to be the litmus test in what I support or don’t support. Who decides? Because obviously, it varies for everyone.
There are many elements of a pride day parade I personally don’t like. But here’s the beauty in that; I don’t have to. It’s a day when everyone, freaks and all, can show their much needed support and encouragement with the larger community, if only on the basis of a common experience of having a sexual orientation not generally supported by mainstream society. Not a huge basis for anything, but given the circumstance of being gay in North America in 2007, it can be pretty powerful!
Al said:
Well, look who just made my point. And why doesn’t mainstream society support us?
Could it be because we rub noses with liberal politicians who ride two-floats-behind NAMBLA in the gay-pride parades? Could it be because when George Michael tells reporters to “f**k off” when asked about his public j/o sessions (because it’s part of “gay” culture and to ask him the question, one had to be “gay”) and have that rhetoric supported by mainstream gay organizations like Planet Out?
Being gay in North America should not be a powerful thing — it should be an equal thing. In order to rightfully whine about what we’re allegedly missing out on in the arena of equal rights, we have to be the ones to reduce the segregation factor that gay organizations are amplifying for us (and here we all thought it was the Christian conservatives.) everyday!
Finally, I quoted him accurately. He admits to falling within the stereotype — and the tone of his post suggests that being surprised when a gay man does not share in with the beliefs of liberal-insanity is a normal thing.
I’m here to say — it’s not normal! People should not be surprised that anyone would be disgusted by the displays put on at the average Pride parade or the idea of partial-birth abortion. The MSM may have re-defined what “normal” is — thankfully, some of us know better.
Thank you for your comment.
Hi Steve.
Thanks for your response. I’m sure it won’t surprise you, but I disagree on several points.
Your point you think I made for you is unclear. In and of themselves, pride parades have very little to do with “why doesn’t mainstream society support us?”
Mainstream society doesn’t support us, because white, heterosexual men, normally the ones that most benefit from current social mores, have a very difficult time picturing what it is that gay men do to each other. Many can’t get over the idea of men sodomizing each other with pleasure. Our existence also challenges the societal norm. Since the dawn of time, that has always been considered very threatening to those with a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.
I would also say that the limp wristed queen wearing a tacky outfit and swishing down the avenue, is comparatively much less a threat than the guy who most wouldn’t know is gay unless they were specifically told. Because that allows for the possibility that hetero and homo differences are not ones that exist on a binary of personal deportment. “well then what does that say about me” is the question that logically follows in the mind of the typical straight guy.
You state “In order to rightfully whine about what we’re allegedly missing out on in the arena of equal rights, we have to be the ones to reduce the segregation factor that gay organizations are amplifying for us”.
While I agree in some cases that may make it easier, I think the more ethical route is to challenge directly the assumptions and unfair assignment of benefit our society currently engages in how they award what really, are human rights.
A question: Have you ever seen a pride parade where Nambla marched and was supported? I have, in New York in 94. I cannot find one example of that anywhere else since then. Believe me, I have tried, as I share your view that it is completely unacceptable. My point is that it is an often used example of something there are no current examples for.
You close by saying “I’m here to say — it’s not normal!”
While I suppose it would be an interesting experience to have that kind of inherent insight, my question is how is it relevant? Differences in behavior that falls within legal constraints, is a fact of life. Instead of fighting for this arbitrary definition of what you think is right and how you think people need to act, why not work from the standpoint that sees those things as largely insignificant in the awarding of human rights, and putting an end to oppression?
Al,
I’ll respond in-depth later, but I do believe it was San Francisco with Nancy Pelosi just a couple vehicles behind.
Yes, it’s San Francisco granted — but this is all done in the name of “gay pride.” Thus explaining why even the most liberal states, under Democracy, will continue to have its voters turning on gay marriage.
Unlike Arizona (a red state) that rejected the ban.
California voted Prop-22 in 2000 (keeping marriage between man-woman) and Oregon came out with 73% supporting the ban (whereas 37% of the state voted for George Bush.)
In a humorous way, I tried to point out the comments made by the fella I mentioned in this article.
He was not all that harsh and I’ve dealt with much worse — I just find it horrific that we have yet another gay man swept up by liberal ideology and fails to notice the real facts as the ones I’ve provided above.