Comments on: My Apologies to the Atheists… http://gayconservative.org/2007/07/25/my-apologies-to-the-atheists/ Resource for Gay Conservatives Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:34:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Steve http://gayconservative.org/2007/07/25/my-apologies-to-the-atheists/#comment-402 Fri, 27 Jul 2007 22:34:19 +0000 http://gayconservative.org/2007/07/25/my-apologies-to-the-atheists/#comment-402 Shaw, I understand what you are saying in terms of terrorism. I feel religion is simply defined as “morality with a spiritual framework” so obviously the theory of extreme Islam is obscene.

But this nonsense about Atheists wanting us to prove God’s existence is preposterous. Dawkins cannot even give an explanation and if they are trying to convince us over the word of Jesus Christ, then they have some massive proving to do.

]]> By: Shawmut http://gayconservative.org/2007/07/25/my-apologies-to-the-atheists/#comment-400 Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:26:53 +0000 http://gayconservative.org/2007/07/25/my-apologies-to-the-atheists/#comment-400 Today’s secularization almost surrenders faith to the bins of lost romances. And as a person, not fully at ease with my own sense of spirituality, I recognize that my ethics were re-enforced through a faith. On the other hand, I have worked out some of my most sensitive issues through a person of whose beliefs I have no idea.
But today we are faced with an element on this earth whose goal is to impose one faith over the rest of mankind and subborn the free will of those less inclined.

]]> By: Steve http://gayconservative.org/2007/07/25/my-apologies-to-the-atheists/#comment-399 Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:06:26 +0000 http://gayconservative.org/2007/07/25/my-apologies-to-the-atheists/#comment-399 “Get you and all your buddies to pray for just one amputees arm to grow back.”

What kind of an argument is that? Ask Darwin or Dawkins to make it grow back.

Prayer is faith, and believing in God is faith. Just because you ask God for something does not mean it’s going to happen.

Prayer can strengthen someone’s will such as the amputee who thinks he can’t go on without his arm. God steps in to provide that hope and that strength.

Once Dawkins and Darwin start producing miracles and Peter Gabriel-video-like camera tricks, ask me then. Otherwise that silly argument will never hold water.

]]> By: bluerat http://gayconservative.org/2007/07/25/my-apologies-to-the-atheists/#comment-398 Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:38:23 +0000 http://gayconservative.org/2007/07/25/my-apologies-to-the-atheists/#comment-398 Steve,

It is of continual surprise to me how people can continue in good faith to claim that there is no evidence for Darwin’s evolutionary theory. Go and read some peer-reviewed literature in biology, ethology, genetics – anything!

As for how effective prayer is: try the following experiement. Get you and all your buddies to pray for just one amputees arm to grow back. I’m sure God, being good and very concerned with what you’re praying for, will make the limb grow back. After all, it can’t be that hard for him; salamanders’ arms grow back and hardly anyone keeps them in their prayers.

]]> By: bluerat http://gayconservative.org/2007/07/25/my-apologies-to-the-atheists/#comment-396 Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:32:17 +0000 http://gayconservative.org/2007/07/25/my-apologies-to-the-atheists/#comment-396 That 76% of people agree with some proposition does not make the proposition correct.

The burden of proof is NOT on atheists. They are not making any claims. The burden on proof is on those that believe in God. Their claim is that he exists. Why should we believe them?

Dawkins doesn’t claim to be working on the problem of where the universe came from himself. But science is. Just because we don’t know yet, doesn’ t mean God did it. That’s a stupid argument called “The God of the Gaps” argument.

Science has disproved plenty of ignorant assertions made by religious believers before.
Examples are: that the earth is at the centre of the universe, that disease is caused by God’s wrath, that the world was created “intelligently”.
(And please don’t come back with the stupid argument that some scientists are religious – that doesn’t prove anything. It is true that some are. But it is historically true to say that scientific discoveries have made religious doctrines backtrack and backtrack. This will continue.)

]]> By: Steve http://gayconservative.org/2007/07/25/my-apologies-to-the-atheists/#comment-376 Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:56:40 +0000 http://gayconservative.org/2007/07/25/my-apologies-to-the-atheists/#comment-376 Thanks for the tip Michael and for your great article. I’ll be looking more into you. Please continue to visit us.

I do think I’m a bit too opinionated to be considered “news” but I have thought of that in the past.

Thanks again!
Steve

]]> By: Michael Krahn http://gayconservative.org/2007/07/25/my-apologies-to-the-atheists/#comment-375 Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:21:59 +0000 http://gayconservative.org/2007/07/25/my-apologies-to-the-atheists/#comment-375 I posted an article on Dawkins at Digital Journal that you might be interested in. The article can be found at:

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/210063/The_Dawkins_Defeat

If you haven’t heard of Digital Journal… I was accepted as a writer there a few days ago and if your writing is good, you can get paid for submitting articles.

]]> By: Richard http://gayconservative.org/2007/07/25/my-apologies-to-the-atheists/#comment-370 Thu, 26 Jul 2007 07:08:13 +0000 http://gayconservative.org/2007/07/25/my-apologies-to-the-atheists/#comment-370 You’ll note, if you watch the video closely, that what Dawkins refers to when he says “we’re working on it” is the beginning of the universe, not the beginning of life on earth (as I mentioned above). He gets cut off just as he’s about to say “physicists….” (who, as I understand it, have little to do with the understanding of life on earth, but are more interested in things like the big bang). He also claims in the same video “we have a very full understanding about … why life is there”, so I think you’re distorting Dawkins’ words.

I’m also not sure where you get your statistics from, but I’m guessing that the 76% you’re talking about is “believers”, not “anti-evolutionists” (for lack of a better term). as far as I can tell, 40% of the US believe evolution is definitely true, with another %20 unsure. That said, pretty much every other major country in the world’s figures look a lot more promising (for the side of the scientists, that is). The fact that 40% of the USA population believe evolution is false says nothing about weather evolution is true or false, it just speaks to the gullibility of your population.

However, if you can point me to your source of statistics, I’d certainly be interested.

]]> By: Steve http://gayconservative.org/2007/07/25/my-apologies-to-the-atheists/#comment-365 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:03:46 +0000 http://gayconservative.org/2007/07/25/my-apologies-to-the-atheists/#comment-365 “I’m not sure what you mean by “Darwinism is a byproduct of Evolution”

Richard, Evolution is “the change in the interited traits of a population from generation to generation” — Christians realize this fact, it’s common knowledge and easy to understand. However, in the late 1800′s, Darwin came along and created the “theory of evolution by natural selection.” Therefore; you are incorrect, Darwinism is a branch of the overall evolutionary theory because it was Darwin that proposed the idea of heritable traits through mutation. Obviously the harmful traits have not become rarer, otherwise we wouldn’t need liberals out there endorsing Embroynic Stem Cell research for alleged cures to harmful traits that continue to plague us. Call me nuts, Richard, as a believer this is where I think prayer and faith comes in.

“Evolutionary biology is a scientific field”

Yes it is, but strictly on the theory of Evolution, the biological evidence for Darwin’s evolutionary theory of natural selection on the other hand is lacking and has been refuted by science all over (you even admitted this in a previous thread.)

“We have quite a bit of knowledge about how live on earth began”

Really? Then why didn’t Dawkins say that to O’Reilly?

“I presume you mean the Christian population”

NO! People can be believers Richard and refrain from practicing any religion. Out of 300 million Americans, 76% of them believe in a higher being and think that Darwinism is a crock. I mentioned nothing about Christianity there.

]]> By: Steve http://gayconservative.org/2007/07/25/my-apologies-to-the-atheists/#comment-364 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:19:46 +0000 http://gayconservative.org/2007/07/25/my-apologies-to-the-atheists/#comment-364 Unlikely?

Thus explaining my providing the link for everyone else to go to.

Don’t be such a girl.

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