Attorney General, Michael Mukasey, brings up a good point.
U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey said Friday he hopes the men charged with participating in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks are not executed if found guilty to avoid making martyrs of them.
Mukasey said many terrorists want to be martyrs and that by sentencing them to death, U.S. authorities risk granting those wishes. He made the comments while answering a question after a talk at the London School of Economics.
However, Mukasey said that the punishment would be fitting if the accused are convicted.
“One of them at least is proud enough of it to have written to his wife that he thinks he is innocent because it was only 3,000 (people who died in the attacks),” he said. “If those are not poster children for the death penalty I don’t know who is.”
Still, Mukasey said he leans against the death penalty in this case because “many of them want to be martyrs.”
Even as prisoners, these guys make it hard for us. I want to see them fry. No. I want to see them drawn and quartered. Ever seen “Braveheart?” I was infuriated about the fate 0f William Wallace (Mel Gibson). But that fate would be better suited for these Islamofascist killers.
But, to make them martyrs? What a conundrum.
Nah.
Screw it.
Kill ‘em.
They can be martyrs in their own minds. But there will be lots of satisfied folks in NYC and across the nation. Their martyrdom doesn’t mean sh*t to me. Their god doesn’t exist anyway. To Hell with them.
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We COULD bypass martyrdom by sending them home to face the death penalty THERE…
I’m not exactly sure what you mean afw, but I want them to die on American soil just like the 3000+ people that they were responsible for killing. I wish a long,painful death for them. I wish the 5th amendment didn’t apply to them.
Better yet – I wish I was in charge of their execution. I would take a page from the playbook of the terrorists in Iraq who have killed our soldiers. I would torture these a-holes relentlessly before I ended their sorry lives.
If they die, they become martyrs in the eyes of the radicals. If they are given life terms, they are a symbol of American oppression. If, though, they die at the hands of the people who kill Americans ‘in the name of Allah,’ they get what they deserve. Dress them as American soldiers shave their hair off, announce an invasion the ‘tribal regions’ of Pakistan, and air drop them in there.
Payback is a bitch, and so am I.
I do understand that feeling Philip, but most of them would be far more humiliated and suffer more if, instead of the martyrdom and attention they crave, they go to the squalid rooms of Egyptian or Saudi or Jordanian jails where other Muslims who are angered at the negative attention this has brought them kill them almost off-handedly.
It takes away their aspiration to matter in this world. It takes away their belief that the entire Muslim world views them as wonderful deliverers for the faith.
It makes them and everything they have done useless.
And it’s perfect.
It’s also what the “Close GTMO now!” dorks don’t understand. GTMO is far nicer, far more humane, and far more comfortable than it would be to turn these people (used loosely) over to their home countries. Which I am all for.
Because nothing devastates them more than hearing AND KNOWING that They. Don’t. Matter.
Just yesterday I put up a WWII poster of “Winnie” with the slogan “Deserve Victory”.
As I wish with all my heart to see these cretins strung up, shot in mid-gurgle and then shredded “to grease the wheels of our tanks” (alaGSP). But, alas, it would only be cut in the food budget at ‘Get More (than they ever had)’.
Ultimately, I want to see all they represent reduced to dust; their sordid ideo-theology, barbaric history and their blind followers who go about smugly extolling a counterfeit religion.
The prisoners are just that, prisoners.
If you wish to call them prisoners of war, OK. But they have endeavored (more than just common folk caught up in a conflict) to engage us as targets of hate. They came to us with a vengeance. Foolishly, we treat them as soldiers of another military element. They are not even that. They are common.
To refer to the poster, “Deserve Victory”, thinnk of what “Winnie” really meant by those simple words.
For Chris Collins –
Since the terrorists captured overseas are not U.S. citizens, I like your approach of cruel and unusual punishment (false flagging them and parachuting them into West Pakistani enclaves. What justice if the intended outcome actually occurs. How can we ensure and verify that?).
Again, since they are not citizens we should think outside the box in terms of accomplishing both punishment and deterrence. But like McCain asks, when considering how we treat prisoners should we not consider what they will do to our prisoners? When all is said and done, we cannot show prevarication and weakness.
Maybe the death penalty is the most “humane”, but there is something to be said for creating hell on earth for them for a prolonged time.
What does it matter to them what treatment they endure on their way to that land of virgins (of which they’re so coonfident)?
Let’s find out.
They might end up instead singing that song from “Music Man”; “I hope, I pray, for Hester to get just one more “A”. A sadder, but wiser girl’s the girl for me…”.
Kill them at that moment they recognize as “sin” and are aware of it.
Mark Ward –
for some enemies, what they will do to our captured soldiers is a consideration. But the terrorists have proven time and time again that no matter how much we try, no matter how far backwards we bend to be “fair”, no matter how many second chances we give, they will kill our men and women in the most vile ways imaginable.
I do not believe that we should torture to death every inmate at GTMO. I don’t even believe we should give any of them the death penalty. As I said above, I’d like to send them all into the custody of their “home” countries – a move many of them are fighting.
But the “how will they treat us?” reasoning is moot in this point. We treat our Prisoners of War humanely because of who we are, not because of what they will do. In all honesty – what they will do is well known, and we can’t change it by being sweetness and light.