“They met, developed a relationship, and spent years building a solid and stable life together.

How many people in the gay community can we say have done that? ”

So gay people should jump a few more hurdles before having children? Everyone else can go for it at will?

Your two friends with the two daughters sound to me like a model couple for any couple wishing to have children period.

I know two men who went from first date, to committment ceremony to first child born in 3 years!!! Can you say warp speed?

They are nice guys if you don’t mind having a baby raised by two Mr. Spocks. I can’t picture a child growing up in a home with no laughter, emotion or with two parents who both lack a sense of humor. Yuck!

I would say “multiple partners” would be mostly personal choice but you can rule out that man’s inherent instinct to pass on his genes as with any animal as some part of it. Like the old joke about it takes a woman to domesticate a man. However due to mans higher brain function then most animals (unless we are talking about hippies) I think how someone was raised would have most impact. Self control, personal morals, societal pressure, and such.

I’m still going to go with the Aliens it’s all their fault.

I consider the population control aspect a normal variant on the genetic roulette. By no means is it a dominant factor in any species.

As for traits being lost over time there is one thing about that among gay men that I find interesting.

Some gay men like to have sex with multiple partners. Some do not.

Two men together won’t produce an offspring. They aren’t built to do that.

So, why the need to have sex with as many partners as one wants? Is this a personal choice? Is this behavior shaped by what someone learns as a child or teen? Is this something driven by evolution?

You would think with gay men the desire to have multiple partners would have died out generations ago. Why? There is no way to pass on genetic traits if a guy sticks with guys only. I am not dissing sex with multiple partners. To each their own I say.

Interesting argument, but I don’t buy it. That a species genes would feel the need to evolve it’s own form of population control when usually evolution -in the survival of the fittest kind- is that the genes and traits necessary or most supportive of life are the ones to dominate and be passed on. Even if it was several different genes and they were all recessive it would stand to reason that eventually they would be lost over time. While this could only work for humans you could argue that societal pressures to conform to heterosexuality have allowed these genes to survive though.

I bet the real answer has something to do with aliens.