An Argument For Leather – Belts

Thank God this happened in Canada.  But it’s sure to happen here soon.  Let’s just hope that US Courts are not as dumb.

A Canadian court has lifted a 12-year-old girl’s grounding, overturning her father’s punishment for disobeying his orders to stay off the Internet, his lawyer said Wednesday.

The girl had taken her father to Quebec Superior Court after he refused to allow her to go on a school trip for chatting on websites he tried to block, and then posting “inappropriate” pictures of herself online using a friend’s computer.

You HAVE to be kidding me.  The question is – how did this case even make it into a courtroom?  In the US, parents that take a hand or a belt to a kid’s ass are subjected to a new, alarming scrutiny as the government attempts to assert itself into the realm of child-rearing.  But this didn’t even involve corporal punishment.

According to court documents, the girl’s Internet transgression was just the latest in a string of broken house rules. Even so, Justice Suzanne Tessier found her punishment too severe.

Too severe??? I would argue that it probably wasn’t severe enough.  I’d love to hear from our “resident mom,” airforcewife, on this one.  I’m probably just arguing from the perspective of someone whose butt was blistered many a time growing up.  I can honestly say that I’m glad my parents were able to exercise that option.  It made me a better person.

 

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  1. airforcewife,

    I wish I lived in Texas. That is this mom’s opinion (I have a 16 year old, a 10 year old, a 7 year old and a 5 year old).

    consider this: if kid calls Child Protective Services for any reason, even if a specious or ridiculous one, the cops CANNOT force them to go home and face the music as long as the kid says they are afraid to. Whether or not they are really afraid.

    Parents are losing many, many rights – and are not being allowed to raise their children properly already in the US. I have no doubt it is going to get worse.

  2. I wish you lived in Texas too! You could come pick up your puppy.

  3. airforcewife,

    That would be awesome!

    In all seriousness, though, Texas is the only place we’ve ever lived where parents were actually given the tools to act like parents and not treated like criminals for doing so.

    My usual “joke” (which is not really a joke) about that is to describe what happens when my kid throws a hissy fit in Wal Mart. If this happens in Texas and I don’t do anything about it, some old man in boots will come up and ask me, “Ya wanna borra my belt?”

    Anywhere else we go they expect me to solve the problem but threaten to put me in jail should my hand make contact with my kid’s butt to inform him/her of the consequences of their actions.

    Give it ten years – we’ll ALL be living in Texas! :)

  4. Texas Rocks.

    I think that the court needs to stay out of parenting, period, unless you can prove neglect or true abuse. Spanking doesn’t constitute abuse. It constitutes kids that’ll grow up to be functioning members of society.

  5. letterstoadyingdream,

    Canada’s about screwed right now. Maybe they don’t have enough kids in prison or single teenage moms and they are trying to make some.

    But you at least still have freedom of Speech there… Wait never mind they got that one two last week.

  6. Oh. My.

    WTH is going on up North? I can’t remember hearing such a story of government involvement to that extent.

    RIDICULOUS!

    This sets a very dangerous precedence.

  7. letterstoadyingdream,

    Well people (the government) will usually try to hide this kind of thing so we don’t know we are screwed till after they got us all packed onto cattle cars.

    “dangerous precedence” is a little soft on them don’t you think?

  8. Now, how will these courts come down on Sharia’a Law.
    I have a feeling, considering how they deal with everyother crisis up there; They’ll deal with it CONVENIENTLY.
    Let’s watch them play these knots out.

  9. A profile of this Judge Tessier might be helpful.
    How would a jury handle this case?
    Assuming a jury in Canada is made up of one’s “peers”?

  10. letterstoadyingdream,

    They won’t come down on Sharia’a law they are trying to make their own version of it minus the religious aspect. Although there are people whose use governmental ideology such socialism, communism as a new form of religion.

  11. John in CA,

    “If this happens in Texas and I don’t do anything about it, some old man in boots will come up and ask me, “Ya wanna borra my belt?””

    LOL. Growing up it was the three B’s – belt, book, and board. If you ever did anything to endanger your life or the life of someone else, then you got the board across your bare ass with a home run swing to give it speed. You literally could not sit for two or three days. Yes it left marks. Getting maimed or killed leaves marks too.

    I got boarded once and that was plenty.

    When I share my parents used to do that people tell me that was child abuse. It wasn’t abuse. I love my parents dearly and they raised me right.

    BTW, nobody in our family ever got boarded more than once. Once was plenty.

  12. I’m suprised at how many folks in our generation and older are thankful for corporal punishment. Sometimes my mom took it a little too far, but it was nothing like the stories my grandparents and great-granparents told me about the “switch.”

    I hate to sound like a cliche, but I think that lax discipline is the reason that the younger ones are turning out so bad (dear God – I’m only 34). Unfortunately, I think we are in a trend that won’t reverse. I pray that someone comes up with a new psychology of parenting that actually works without spanking. Otherwise, the future generations will get more spoiled and mean.

  13. John in CA,

    “I’m suprised at how many folks in our generation and older are thankful for corporal punishment. Sometimes my mom took it a little too far, but it was nothing like the stories my grandparents and great-granparents told me about the “switch.””

    It’s next to impossible to reason with a toddler or a five year old. Even older kids can lack intellectual understanding of their misdeeds.

    But we all understand pleasure and pain. We all understand rewards and denials. We may not totally understand why we get one vs. the other. But we do understand we prefer one over the other.

    That’s why you spank kids. They won’t understand if you time out and coddle them.

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