I read a news article over the weekend about the spike in gun sales. In particular, people are buying the guns that were blacklisted during the Clinton Gun Ban. Here’s a little bit of how I feel about it (though I could go on all day):
What say you? Genuine discussion, please, don’t bog it down with personal insults (or phallic references, that just sounds ridiculous).
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steveflesher
Philip
Mel Maguire
Mark Ciavola
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Phenomenal! I’ve always maintained that a gun ban would ensure that only criminals will be armed. Whoever that person is speaking in the video is a perfect spokesman – she’s calm and 100% logical. The complete opposite of what a typical anti-gun leftist is, when on a rant.
Exactly – the people who are causing the gun violence have the guns illegally ANYWAY. So further bans and laws are not going to affect them. What they will affect is people who only want to protect themselves and their homes.
Even though I grew up spending time at my Pop’s farm where guns were readily and easily accessible and used for hunting, I had a period of my life where I was tremendously anti-gun. Then I grew up and had kids and I realized that I was NOT going to be ANYONE’s victim.
Guns are tools, and like any tool need to be used with training and treated with respect. The same with my pit bull – he’s the best dog we’ve ever had and even sleeps with my kids. But no one is going to break into my house while he’s on watch.
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
You rock, Mel!
Thanks, guys.
Here’s something else to consider: in December 2006, a man convicted of aggravated assault on a police officer, Bryan Wayne Hulsey, was released from an Arizona prison after serving only a year and a half of his five-year sentence. He’d been caught trying to hold up a Circle K and pulled a gun on the officer, and in the ensuing struggle dropped the weapon. By that time he was already on probation for drug charges and was therefore a prohibited person (meaning he wasn’t allowed by law to buy or possess a firearm).
Two and a half months after his release, on February 19, 2007, he was in a vehicle pulled over by Glendale police just outside of Phoenix. Hulsey sat in the car and waited for a second officer to respond for backup because all three people in that vehicle had warrants for their arrest. As he was getting out of the vehicle at the officers’ request, he pulled a .357 pistol and shot my friend, officer Tony Holly, in the head. Tony died instantly.
Hulsey wasn’t allowed to buy a gun. He wasn’t even supposed to handle one by law. He had one anyway. What does that say? It says that no matter what laws are in place, the bad guys will always be able to get what they want.
If I wanted to (and I don’t want to) I could drive down the road to North Fair Oaks or East Palo Alto or across the bay into east Oakland and get a gun on the streets in less than hour.
Who would I get these guns from? Most likely convicted felons who should not have guns. But, they’ve got plenty of guns.
So if Obama chooses to redux the Clinton Gun ban, it won’t stop anything. I am sure everyone who posts on this board can find a place to go close by and get a gun as easily as I can get one.
“Guns are tools, and like any tool need to be used with training and treated with respect. ”
Mel commented on car deaths and falls, it brings back that quote from Archie Bunker to his daughter Gloria when arguing about gun control, “Would you feel better little girl if they was pushed out of windows?”
Something tells the gun banning liberals would feel better if “they was pushed out of windows.”
I love it. Thanks Mel. I too grew up shooting and hunting. I shot my dad’s 20guage for the first time when I was 11. His 9mm when I was about 18. I don’t own a firearm on my own, but I’m considering it!
How ’bout this one: more people are mugged by people who don’t even have guns, but instead have items such as knives, pipes, bats, chains–that sort of thing. More than half of all assaults in America (and in other countries, such as Britain) are committed with weapons other than firearms.
The Brady Center for Gun Violence also touts the statistic that “18 children are killed every day by guns in America.” Okay…there’s just one problem with that. Of the 18 children killed by guns, 16 are killed during the commission of a crime (usually gang-related) and are old enough to be tried as adults for some of the crimes they’re attempting to commit.
“…and the world would be a great place if it weren’t for all the STUPID people in it.”
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“How ’bout this one: more people are mugged by people who don’t even have guns, but instead have items such as knives, pipes, bats, chains–that sort of thing. ”
You forgot about landslides, avalanches, lightening strikes, and getting pecked to death by sparrows. We need to ban those things too.
I stand corrected, Peter and John.
Well get what you want now while they are still legal. Then when they come to take them away make them work for it.
Remember if they think you are willing to give up your 2nd Amendment rights they will think you are willing to give up the rest as well.