After the debate tonight, hopefully Ron Paul will get the message and switch the party name after his own. He is clearly not in line with Republicans or the Republican base.
He aligns himself with us by opposing Roe vs. Wade and calling it a massive mistake.
He aligns himself with us by supporting strong border patrol.
But he trashes us and utterly embarrasses us on National Security. He is clearly appealing to the anti-war nuts and using the same talking points we hear from people like Rosie O’Donnell. Here are a few snippets from what he had to say:
“The people who say there will be a bloodbath are the ones who said it would be a cakewalk, it would be slam dunk, and that it would be paid for by oil. Why believe them? They’ve been wrong on everything they’ve said. Why not ask the people — (interrupted by cheers) — why not ask the people who advise not to go into the region and into the war? The war has not gone well one bit.”
“We should not go to war — (cheers, applause) — we should not go to war without a declaration.”
“We have no need for our national security to have troops on the Arabian Peninsula, and going into Iraq and Afghanistan and threatening Iran is the worst thing we can do for our national security.”
“I am less safe, the American people are less safe for this.”
“The American people didn’t go in. A few people advising this administration, a small number of people called the neoconservative hijacked our foreign policy.”
“We’re losing elections and we’re going down next year if we don’t change it.”
I’m not quite sure who said it was going to be a “cakewalk.” (Lie #1) Since all the liberal and Ron Paul-like types were carping about casualties during a war, Republicans have appropriately responded by politely reminding them what happens in a war. The enemies are afraid and they shoot back. We have also pointed out how incredibly difficult this war is compared to others because we indeed are not fighting ONE MAN or ONE COUNTRY, we are fighting an entire ideology and trying to get a strong foothold in the center of it all in Iraq to continue to minimize it. Nobody has called it a “cakewalk.”
(Lie #2) Next he lies again (pointed out by Duncan Hunter and quoted below) when he says that the “war has not gone well one bit.” Aside from Hunter’s list of accomplishments, Paul fails to mention ridding the world of Saddam, his lunatic sons, watching Iraq participate in three major acts of Democracy, and killing/capturing hundreds of thousands of terrorists and insurgents.
(Lie#3) He claims we did not go to war without declaration. Paul also denounces the idea of war in Afghanistan (the one even liberals pretend to support). Wasn’t 9/11 a hint? Wasn’t Saddam making a purposed bluff to the U.N. about WMD after 9/11 a hint? Pretending that 9/11 was not a declaration of war or a hint that this very sick part of the world was out of control with hateful fanaticism leads me to believe that indeed Ron Paul MUST be purposely trying to appeal to the 9/11 conspiracy nuts. After all, if 9/11 was not a declaration of war by our enemies, it must have been something orchestrated by the Government, right?
(Lie#4) He then declares that he is less safe and that every American is less safe. The fact that we haven’t been attacked since 9/11 or that no major American interest has been attacked overseas (the longest span between attacks since they all began in 1979) directly disagrees with him. I’m a American, could we please leave the lying to what the American people really feel to the Democrats, Dr. Paul?
(Lie#5) He then says that neo-conservatives hijacked foreign policy. I wonder if he would characterize FDR as a neo-conservative?
The brilliant Duncan Hunter stated in response:
” first, let’s remember that we’ve got troops — those 157,000 folks in Iraq, lots of them in Afghanistan are watching us tonight, and let me just tell you what they’ve done.
In Anbar province, we were having 1,350 attacks a month last October. By the blood, sweat and tears of the U.S. Marines out there, we’ve pulled it down 80 percent. They’ve pulled down civilian casualties 74 percent. (Applause.) And I — I shouldn’t let this one go, because the Democrats made an entire debate in never complementing what the troops have done. This is how we do it.
We’ve got 129 battalions in the Iraqi army that we’re training up. We’re training them up, we are getting them into the fight. When those Iraqi battalions are battle-hardened and they start to rotate into the positions on the battlefield, displacing American forces, the American forces can then rotate out, come back to the U.S. or go to other places in Central Command.
That’s the right way to win; it’s called victory. That’s how we leave Iraq. (Cheers, applause.)”
“let me tell you, right now we’ve seen an 80 percent depression in the attacks in Anbar province, those tough towns of Fallujah and Ramadi — which were incidentally the toughest, most difficult towns, where gun battles were being waged daily. We’ve now knocked that down 80 percent. And my answer is, if you think we’re going to be there for a long time, you don’t understand the determination of the U.S. Marines and the U.S. Army. (Cheers, applause.) We’re going to turn it over.”
I am sad we haven’t paid more attention to Duncan Hunter. I am also sorry Fred Thompson did not make this debate. Duncan Hunter is an excellent candidate and in fact did win a GOP straw poll in Texas (Ron Paul’s state). Hunter received 534 votes and Thompson came in second with 266 votes. Ron Paul came in third. But we can see early on in majority how much of an embarrassment Ron Paul is in his own state.
I’m sorry to all my Fred supporters (like my brilliant site partner) but until Fred comes out on these issues with more zeal, my support is now focused on Duncan Hunter.
Aside from reading Paul’s quotes above, Hunter was the guy tonight who finally articulated the fraud that lies within Ron Paul and his lunatic supporters. Ron Paul does not represent the Republican Party. He is dangerous to our security and continues to holler out the same talking points we could have heard a year ago on the The View when Rosie was on.